Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

topic posted Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:50 PM by  Achbar
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What can I do about this situation without resorting to Drugs? I live in the Charlotte, NC area. Where can I get help?
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  • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

    Wed, June 11, 2008 - 10:21 PM
    You have taken a great first step in joining this tribe -- this is definitely one place where you can help.

    Just curious why you are hesitant about taking drugs?

    I know that there are numerous views on what causes ADD, but the predominant view is that brain chemistry that doesn't function right can be at fault.

    If you were diagnosed with a thyroid problem where the thyroid gland was not producing enough of the hormone, would you also be hesitant taking medication for that? (Just an analogy)

    I actually am saying this from my own experience --- I have always hated the idea that I have to take medication for ADD (and I'm also bi-polar so I also hate having to take medication for that). The concept of having to take pills to make my brain "function right" has bothered me to no end. I do not, however, have the same problem with having to take medications for a thryroid imbalance and hormone replacements. But yet, I still hate the idea of taking psych meds.

    It doesn't help that the public perception of having to take meds for various physiological issues be it ADD, Bi-polar, depression, etc is sometimes "negative" to say the least. "Just get over it" can be an all to frequent refrain.

    All that being said -- I can suggest some alternatives if you are totally adverse to taking drugs.

    First, check out the various resources that are on line -- start with www.chadd.org/ which is the primary org for Add/Adhd support. Check out their link for Finding Support.

    Also check out Yahoo groups in addition to Tribes -- one thing you will find is that sense that you are not alone in some of the actions/qualities/characteristics that you have (for example - I found out I was not the only one that had a massive collection of pens since I couldn't just have one).

    On a more practical note, how is your ADD manifesting itself? One of the things you can do is to try to find a way to "compensate" for what it is. For example, when I was in college, I got bored almost the minute the class started, so I journaled the whole time I was in class (I used single sheets rather than a true notebook so I could easily slip into the notebook I was using for class notes). You may not be able to compensate for all actions, but it may help some.

    Finally, involve your family members and friends -- let them know what's going on. Hopefully they will be both supportive and helpful -- it took my husband to point out to me that I was talking a mile a minute, not finishing sentences, interrupting, jumping from subject to subject -- I had no clue, of course, since to me I was talking slowly, completing sentences, not interrupting and finishing subjects.

    I was not diagnosed with ADHD until I was about 47 -- I remember the first time I took my medication I was overwhelmed with the sense that "Oh my God, this is what the rest of the world feels" . It was actually a pleasant sensation to have the chaos in my mind settle down for a while.

    Hope some of this helps --- and good luck.

    Gret
  • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

    Wed, June 11, 2008 - 10:24 PM
    "What can I do about this situation without resorting to Drugs?"

    Probably not a lot. By your age, you've probably developed fairly effective cooping strategies but a psychiatrist could offer DBT and CBT, maybe a stress reduction course. Talk to your doctor about referrals to local psychiatrists.
    • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

      Thu, June 12, 2008 - 12:35 AM
      The main thing is to to be aware of how it is affecting you. If you are like most people with ADD, you probably have disorganizing problems. If there is a therapy group with people with ADD, you might find it valuable as it will help you compare notes with other people as well as strategies to deal with ADD. Like Troy said, you probably have some strategies already without even knowing that it was disorder related. Sadly for many of us, it may be very hard to become adjusted without meds, so do keep an open mind.
  • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

    Thu, June 12, 2008 - 5:43 AM
    achbar - "better living through chemistry"

    its a deep set brain cell situation ... fight fire with fire
    • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

      Thu, June 12, 2008 - 5:00 PM
      these stories I find on ADD are so funny and sound just like me..
      do they sound a bit like you?

      doctors and psychologists who study these things say that those who have it are born with it. Who am I to argue with all that education? Actually, maybe I would because one of the characteristics of people with ADD is an aversion to authority figures. It's not that we always think the authorities are wrong; we may just not want to admit that they are right.

      Even though I've had this disorder my entire life, I've only known about it for a little over a year , or at least that's how long I've had a name for it. I had 54 and a 1/2 years to observe its effects on me before somebody told me I had it, and it was diagnosed. I've known most of my life that there was something different about me, that I didn't think and act like most people do, but I never really knew why. I had never thought about the possibility that my brain might have been made a little differently than most brains, causing me to view and react to the world in a manner unlike most human beings.

      Okay—at this point I will argue a little with the ADD authorities, as do some other people I know who have these special brains. I don't think it is necessarily a "disorder." After all a disorder indicates something is wrong, and I'm not ready to admit there is something wrong with my brain. It's just different, and to me, that makes it special. My brain is not the ordinary garden-variety brain. I'm offended that someone might think it defective or disordered just because it is different.

      Let's make a comparison here. There are more ways than one to measure things. Two of the common systems are the metric system and the English system. Most of the world uses the metric system. Here in the good old U.S.A., we use the English system. Does that mean our system of measurement is disordered just because it is different from the one used by most humanity? I don't think so!

      Actually, someone with ADD probably devised the English system of measurement because it is far more complex and confusing than the metric system, and one of the characteristics of those of us with ADD is the ability to find the most complicated method for completing a simple task!

      I also differ with the authorities that describe ADD as an attention "deficit." That would indicate that people with ADD don't pay as much attention to our surroundings as the supposedly normal people. Now, I can understand how a normal person might think that to be the case when they talk to us about something for a while, and then ask us a question, only to hear a response dealing with a totally different subject, or perhaps with information that is connected in a manner they are unable to understand. They probably think we didn't hear anything they said.

      Actually, people with ADD may pay too much attention to their surroundings. One or two things are commonly going on in our minds at any given time. Most of us are actually gathering (and attempting to process) far more information about our surroundings than normal people do... As a result, we may have so much data in our heads that it becomes difficult to sort it out.

      If you were to strike up a conversation with me on a busy street corner—assuming you are a normal person—you would probably expect me to shut out everything else and pay strict attention to you. That is truly a totally unreasonable expectation to place on an ADD person. I would be listening to you, but I'd also be listening to traffic noises, chirping birds, barking dogs, as well as the conversations of people around us. But that's not all! I'd be looking at what you are wearing, your gestures, clouds in the sky, displays in nearby store fronts, billboards, street signs, cracks in the sidewalk, grass growing out of the cracks in the sidewalk, an ant climbing through the grass, the leaf the ant is dragging, and the hole in the leaf.

      You've just finished telling me about your Aunt Gertrude's appendectomy, and I respond with, "I never realized an ant could carry anything that big!" You probably think I'm crazy and wonder if I really think your Aunt's appendix was that swollen, depending on how you and I pronounce "ant" and "aunt.This example may present at least an inkling of what is happening much of the time in the heads of those of us with ADD. You see, it really isn't an attention "deficit." It is more like an attention "excess." Maybe, in that respect, we are hyperactive. Even though our bodies don't always show it, our minds are in overdrive.

      Then another thing sometimes happens to those of us with ADD—we become hyper-focused. Again, this is not a lack of or shortage of attention. Hyper-focused is highly concentrated attention. When we go into a hyper-focus state, we may ignore you when you speak to us. It's not intentional, but we may be concentrating so intently on one miniscule source of data that you could put an air horn next to our ears, blast it for three seconds, and we genuinely would be totally unaware of your presence. It's just that some subject, some object, some project has grasped and held our attention so powerfully that we become unconscious of anything else in our surroundings until we are completely through dealing with it.



      this is what we sound and think like at times....

      "I am 55 years old, divorced, have Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), Parkinson's disease (PD); I have $16 cash in my pocket and an unknown bank balance (Negative or positive? Not sure!) The Department of Revenue is looking for me; there's a nearly full tank of gas in my ten-year-old car with 116,000 miles on it; my phone is about to be shut off; I have three ex-wives, two sons, and a girl friend (sort of); my 90 year-old father lives alone, is losing his memory and is in better shape physically than I; there's the possibility of a new 90 year-old step-mother; I have back problems that are keeping me from working my most lucrative part-time job, a business that has just closed; a deadline to get out of the business location/home that I have just sold in 17 days!, work to get started for my other part-time job, and work needing to be completed for customers from my recently closed business. There are phone calls that need to be made to a disability insurance company, a real estate agent and to artists who have consigned work to me; then there are customers, creditors, and who knows whom and what else I need to take care of.... Where do I start?

      After getting a cup of coffee, I think I'll play solitaire on my broken computer... "

      Have a great day!





      • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

        Fri, June 13, 2008 - 5:15 PM
        Sounds like someone has been following me around and chronicling my life. As I write this I should be paying bills, replying to the IRS who want my tax return from 1995, but doing that just doesn't happen -- and I'm here instead. I can't figure it out (or stop it for that matter).

        As someone else who found out in their 50's they were ADHD, I also had a perception of being different. Because of the stimulating environment I grew up in I was always viewed as highly intelligent. Since most people don't talk about what goes on in their heads, you just assume that you're not THAT different -- maybe you think a little faster, but the fact that you are tracking 20 things at the same time is nothing unusual. Yes I talked fast -- but it didn't seem that fast to me. I didn't jump from topic to topic - there either was a logical progression to the new topic or I really did finish my comment (though I actually hadn't verbalized it). I didn't interrupt people -- you stopped talking for a bit so I assumed you were done.

        The problem was that what I was thinking I was saying, what I was hearing myself saying, what I knew for sure I said, WASN"T what came out of my mouth. Since I was a solitary person, no one every confronted me with that fact -- my friends just chalked it up to "that's just Gret's way, but we love her anyway". It wasn't until I spent three months living 24/7 with my sister-in-law while we cared for our mother that I had someone who was gutsy enough to point this behaviour out to me.

        I have also been bad about taking my meds since - to me - there was no difference if I took them or not. But from her I would get the "did you take your pills today" question on days where I did forget to take. To others, there was an obvious difference between my demeanor with the meds and without the meds. (It is truly unsettling to realize that how you perceive you are acting/saying/doing isn't what is actually happening).

        I've since freely given people close to me permission to ask the 'did you take your meds' question since I still have a problem with taking meds on a regular basis -- I would rather have that question asked than behave in my 'non-medicated' state (i.e. typical ADD/ADHD patterns).

        (Note - I do like the idea that there is nothing 'deficit' about this disorder - more like Attention Overload Disorder would work)

        Gret
        • Re: Hello, I have been told that I have ADD

          Fri, June 13, 2008 - 9:56 PM
          "(It is truly unsettling to realize that how you perceive you are acting/saying/doing isn't what is actually happening). "

          People (ADD or otherwise) are very poor objective observers of their own behavior - to do so requires a great deal of effort and brutal honesty.

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