http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#905afec4-f90d-446b-a6b8-fb3ff8e63e9c "i take wellbutrin aka bupropion ... it is Rx'd for depression and a.d.d. both ... but ... I find that it makes me snappy or agitated, especially if i take it on an empty stomach or have had a lot of coffee ......... " The stuff is notorious for causing upset stomachs. Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:08:32 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#905afec4-f90d-446b-a6b8-fb3ff8e63e9c Troy 2009-06-01T17:08:32Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#1fcf96bd-a2ff-4779-bb78-ee5a06a1e2d2 "... am going to look into seeing another doctor (my current one doesn't seem to be helping much, she's a sort of "Uh-huh, tell me more" type with occasional bits of advice) about it." Unfortunately, that is how they are trained to respond (AKA: use guided questioning to help the patient figure out their own solution but never give advice). The problem with that method in your case is that problem you wish to discuss is a side-effect of the medication - there is nothing to figure-out, no behaviors or thinking patterns for you to change. Originally, Strattera was designed to be an SSRI (an anti-depressant) and is very closely related to prosaic but didn't work every well for that but did appear to have an effect on some people with ADD which is how it became an ADD med. Nearly all the anti-depressants (they really should be thought of as mood levelers) have the side-effect that you are describing. Since your on both Bupropion and Strattera, maybe ritallin, adderall or dexedrin would work better for you. Good luck. Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:05:50 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#1fcf96bd-a2ff-4779-bb78-ee5a06a1e2d2 Troy 2009-06-01T17:05:50Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#89e4a9f5-7d0f-4921-8578-d7e0a9b8c24c i take wellbutrin aka bupropion ... it is Rx'd for depression and a.d.d. both ... but ... I find that it makes me snappy or agitated, especially if i take it on an empty stomach or have had a lot of coffee ......... Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:37:14 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#89e4a9f5-7d0f-4921-8578-d7e0a9b8c24c SynerGy 2009-06-01T04:37:14Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#01a4650a-14ed-4bba-a282-d92dc9f88840 I've taken Strattera for a little over a year now and have seen both good and bad effects. I focus on tasks and follow through more. The negative side effect that concerns me most is I seem to be experiencing emotional numbing. I've only become really aware of it. A lot of the time the only feelings that seem to have a major effect on me are negative ones. I don't get more then flashes of deep joy or excitement, even things that should have me giddy. It worries me greatly and am going to look into seeing another doctor (my current one doesn't seem to be helping much, she's a sort of "Uh-huh, tell me more" type with occasional bits of advice) about it. I used to be pretty darn emotional too, even overly so, but this is the other end of the spectrum. I've lost a lot of my empathy too. It's like I've gone from being a Betazoid to a Vulcan. I also take Bupropion SR 150mg one a day, but that doesn't seem to be known for causing this side effect. I hate to give up the ability to have more follow thru, but I don't think I can live with this. I really feel like I've lost a large part of myself. Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:47:17 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#01a4650a-14ed-4bba-a282-d92dc9f88840 DravenGal 2009-06-01T02:47:17Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#5c13aa95-7f89-4033-a149-1a8ba40b93fe worked for my ADD I at first but I ended up vomiting every day once I got to therapeutic blood levels really not fun but it works for other people. Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:38:12 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#5c13aa95-7f89-4033-a149-1a8ba40b93fe Chris 2008-12-06T23:38:12Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#bd119b62-16ef-41c0-8892-59e25ded1164 Hated it!!! Strattera made me feel absolutely awful for the first week or two and I never really felt normal. I do a lot of yoga and I really noticed its effects during my yoga practice. my strength and endurance were seriously affected by it, and I really couldn't tell if it was helping with the ADD. Make sure you read up on its potentially nasty side-effects like permanent heart damage. I finally just stopped taking it because it was freaking me out so much. constipation was also a nightmare. I think it's a total scam but I guess things like this vary quite a bit from person to person. Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:31:07 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#bd119b62-16ef-41c0-8892-59e25ded1164 YOJI 2008-11-18T20:31:07Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#cad04fd3-3a34-4c44-a92d-3091d534afc2 fooey its poison i wouldnt take it Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:48:13 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#cad04fd3-3a34-4c44-a92d-3091d534afc2 SynerGy 2008-10-19T13:48:13Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#a8fa903b-9a0a-40ea-9619-1d05bb980ff7 I've been using strattera for about 9 months and i've been doing much better, couldn't imagine myself without it now, just hang in there for the first month or so, so your body can adapt to it, it's worth it! and if you do, you'll feel the side effects dissipate in time. Sarah Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:30:18 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#a8fa903b-9a0a-40ea-9619-1d05bb980ff7 SarahRose 2008-10-19T12:30:18Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#5bcf9155-4c85-4490-9423-f7588096bb1a Oy! I was on it for about a month a few years back. I would feel sick to my stomach unless I took it with a five-course meal. The whole experience led me to get off meds for a long time. Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:25:23 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#5bcf9155-4c85-4490-9423-f7588096bb1a Lee 2008-08-31T20:25:23Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#39988193-c449-4784-a8c1-c73ede2be00f I've always had a dislike of crowded environments. It's worsened as I've aged, but not particularly in response to Straterra. In fact, I can tolerate it better on meds, but I still prefer to avoid it. Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:30:22 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#39988193-c449-4784-a8c1-c73ede2be00f Eingang 2008-02-25T02:30:22Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#71f097bf-87f1-4edc-ae51-6f7a89dc3e8b Well, I've tried Ritalin, Concerta, Amantadine AND most recently Straterra for my ADD and none of them work. Can't tolerate stimulants, the Amantadine was not really doing a lot to help me focus and the Strattera caused deperssion, suicidal thoughts and serious rage. I see my doc next week but this is really disheartening. I am still taking BuSpar and I thank god that is helpful and keeping me steady. Just gotta wait and get this effing Strattera out of my system now. It pisses me off to have to take drugs to approximate being "normal," whatever the hell that is! Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:46:41 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#71f097bf-87f1-4edc-ae51-6f7a89dc3e8b Nada 2008-02-23T00:46:41Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#a95f3aef-f5ba-411c-8cb4-c46cd27a452c Based on your post to the overload management thread, I would be concerned about anxiety related side effects as you sound like you are developing socialphobia-like symptoms (avoiding crowded places etc - may not be right to call it a socialphobia but its the best I can come-up with). Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:36:01 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#a95f3aef-f5ba-411c-8cb4-c46cd27a452c Troy 2008-02-22T18:36:01Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#ed40360f-1883-4e7a-adb4-0f87e3661a51 Side effects? I did gain weight. I don't think that was the drug, though. I think that was a result of my appetite not being constantly inhibited by a stimulant drug. Other than that, I didn't experience any significant side effects after the first month. Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:40:32 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#ed40360f-1883-4e7a-adb4-0f87e3661a51 Eingang 2008-02-22T17:40:32Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#65c48908-0177-49f9-bc1d-9bc9fdbbca5c I don't believe Effexor is the same thing as Strattera. Effexor is Venlafaxine. Strattera is Atomexetine. They're molecularly similar, I guess, being made up of Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen and Oxygen. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venlafaxine and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomoxetine Anyway, I do use Strattera. I've been on it for almost a year now, after spending most of my life on Ritalin and later Concerta. I had to stop taking Concerta because I was getting depressed and into obsessive-compulsive non-productive loops, as well as feeling increasingly distanced from the world. I didn't like it. Note, however, that I had been taking Ritalin or Concerta for years with no such side effects (almost 30!). I was worried about switching to Strattera. I rather liked that I could have medication-free weekends and the like with Ritalin/Concerta. You must take Strattera all the time and it can take weeks or months to build up the right baseline amount in your body. Now that the dosage has been stabilized, I'm happy with it. I actually like it better than the Ritalin/Concerta. Like Concerta, I only have to take it once a day, which is easier to manage, but I feel it does a much better job of helping with mood lability. Before I used to get upset/angry and enter into a cycle where I could watch myself getting angry and responding inappropriately, but I felt unable to stop myself -- too small of a gap. With the Strattera, the gap seems larger plus I'm not as moody to begin with. I think my interpersonal relationships have benefitted a lot. In terms of concentration, I get pretty much well the same focusing effects as I had with the Ritalin/Concerta. All in all, I'm quite happy with it, but your experiences may differ. Everyone's neurochemistry is unique. Heck, even mine changed, which is why I could no longer use Ritalin/Concerta in the first place. Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:39:03 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#65c48908-0177-49f9-bc1d-9bc9fdbbca5c Eingang 2008-02-22T17:39:03Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#800bea08-4018-4f4d-b690-697aa0761fce I tried it once, and so did my teenage daughter. Neither of us liked it. Both of us were jittery, uncomfortable, restless...just didn't work for us. The mftr really pushes this drug on doctors, who push it on their patients. We went back to adderal. Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:13:20 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#800bea08-4018-4f4d-b690-697aa0761fce Soooz: biker/priestess 2007-12-10T20:13:20Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#3500c70e-c2b8-49b5-920d-987441943952 No way ... strattera is the same thing as Effexor which gave me ALLLL kinds of problems/side effects Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:23:06 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#3500c70e-c2b8-49b5-920d-987441943952 SynerGy 2007-12-10T14:23:06Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#6984e888-4d5e-473b-9d45-56284a8f3137 I'm taking Buspar and Amantadine. The doc decided they were better for me and I'm having no problems. Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:24:00 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#6984e888-4d5e-473b-9d45-56284a8f3137 Nada 2007-12-10T04:24:00Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#27afb07f-f2db-494a-883f-0848a79ab872 works for me, no side effects. I've been on it for more than a year now. Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:10:00 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#27afb07f-f2db-494a-883f-0848a79ab872 eilu 2007-12-08T11:10:00Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#46bf2401-d179-4f63-8f2e-1b0ba29a11af Will do. Just realized I spelled it wrong-Strattera. Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:52:00 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#46bf2401-d179-4f63-8f2e-1b0ba29a11af Nada 2007-11-04T17:52:00Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#becfc5b9-3462-46bc-8490-c6048d7e8c09 Please, let us know how it works for you. Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:34:25 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#becfc5b9-3462-46bc-8490-c6048d7e8c09 Troy 2007-11-04T07:34:25Z http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#8d9a419a-3410-446f-b303-53c18026f564 My shrink called me back after I told her Ritalin was making me feel rotten. She said it sounded like stimulants were not for me, so she'll start me on Sattera this Friday. Anyone on it or any advice/pros/cons? I Googled it-constipation and liver damage and it takes a few weeks to kick in. Hmmm. Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:46:01 GMT http://add-and-adhd.tribe.net/thread/8567079c-705c-41de-b231-5060fbaddd48#8d9a419a-3410-446f-b303-53c18026f564 Nada 2007-11-04T06:46:01Z