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I take concerta and I love it..... just wondering if all of you are medicated. What are you on? Feel it helps?
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Re: Are you medicated?
Tue, August 21, 2007 - 8:34 PMYES!!! happily. adderall. my circles of thought are more tightly bound.
i get more fixated on details that i normally would ignore.
i make lists that tend to get done (by me).
and i don't give up as easily.
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Wed, August 22, 2007 - 9:16 AMI take concerta as well when I am in school, but not every day.
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Thu, August 23, 2007 - 3:04 PMHahaha, yes, the lists! My wife laughs at all the little lists she pulls out of my pockets before they hit the laundry.
I usually use my PDA (i call it my periphrial brain) but jotting down stuff then prioritizing them is the easiest way to nail down my life. And yes adderall helps me cross off everything on the lists, then they can get washed with out further complication.
Before I was officially diagnosed, i used to drink 10 shots of espresso a day, yes thats right 10!
Now Ive completely kick caffine, and my stomach is happier.
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Wed, August 22, 2007 - 5:02 PMI've tried just about everything for ADD and although some where helpful they all had side-effects that were worse then the ADD.
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Thu, August 23, 2007 - 3:09 PMI optioned for the generic, that doesnt come in XR because:
1. I dont always like being on it (I like being a little spacey sometimes)
2. If i forget to take it early in the day, I can still take it, and have it out of my system so I can sleep that night.
3. Its cheaper
4. My insurece only pays for generic, and XR is only brand name.
5. It comes in a peach flavor (reminds me of flintstones vitamines, hahah)
But ya XR does take the guess work on when to take your next dose, you dont have to, you just take it once!
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 10:28 PMyes! in my drawer i have:
ritalin (fast acting)
dexadrine (slow release spansules)
wellbutrin
strattera
i have a recipe/direction list..................... i think my doctor is crazy.
but i don't really have to pay for them, so what the hell.
it's supposed to make a 'custom made' cocktail... tailored exactly to my needs. following a protracted period of experimentation.
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 3:44 PMI think you maybe right about your doctor. That combo hits norepinepherine very hard (everything on that list effects it), dopamine (ritalin and dexdrine) and seritonin (wellbutrin and strattera).
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 2:02 PMI'm seeking a diagnosis as we speak, have an assessment scheduled.
Am 100% sure I have it.
Friend of mine who has it is also convinced.
My mother reports me being this way as a child also .
I currently take Wellbutrin for depression but it doesn't help much at all I dont think .
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 11:13 PMNope, I just rotate my tasks every 5-15 min and it works well for me. Fortunately I work for myself so no problem with my boss not understanding me. It's a little hard on my beloved, but I just remind her that I'm still getting a lot of things accomplished. Once I learned to cycle back around until I finished a project things work a better for me. -
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Thu, November 1, 2007 - 7:00 PMYeh, just started on Ritalin and I hate it. Makes me anxious, light headed, stomache ache-y with a bad crash that makes me feel depressed and tearful and my sleep habits are shot. My doctor said we'll try different things and I may just stop taking this crap until I see her again. It's worse (for me) than the ADD itself. -
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Fri, November 2, 2007 - 6:29 PMThe extended release from of many ADD mediations (ritaliin, amphetamine (adderall and dexedrine), exficor (sp) etc) have less problems with physical side-effects (stomach aches, light headness, etc). If you are having problems with anxiety from ritalin, I think you will likely have anxiety problems with most ADD medications as they all hit norepinephrine to some degree. Dexedrine will probably be better but still an issue. Strattera is likely to be the worst as it major target is to increase norepinephrine levels. -
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Fri, November 2, 2007 - 8:16 PMThanks, Troy. this is all becoming an unpleasant trip. My shrink does not return calls about my meds so I have just stopped taking them. -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 10:17 AMTime to find a new shrink - it is their job to return calls about medications.
If a patient under their care called about a sever side-effect where the doctor did not respond and later the patient was hospitalized or died from the side-effects then the doctor would be criminally liable. In a less sever case, they would still be civilly liable.
You don't want a doctor who blows you off.
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 3:12 AMadderall is a more complex 'cocktail' of amphetamine constituents than ritalin, so it's smoother on purpose ... ritalin is old science/old chemistry ... -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 10:11 AMActually adderall is the cruder and older of the two. Adderall is just a racemic (50:50) mixture of the D and L forms of amphetamine and was developed in the 50's. Rilatin is a single stereoisomer and was developed in the late 60's early 70's.
For those who experience no benfit from or have severr side-effects to either ritalin or amphetamine the other often works better. There are, of course, many who can take neither. -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 2:15 PMnews to me but congrats troy on your google skills
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 2:30 PMNo googling, I'm a medchemist... knowing this stuff is part of the job. -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 2:55 PMSeriously. I research drugs for a living... how to make them, how to make them cheaper, understand how and why they produce the effects that they do, and design new ones to treat various diseases.
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Mon, March 31, 2008 - 11:28 PM<If you are having problems with anxiety from ritalin, I think you will likely have anxiety problems with most ADD medications >
ritalin sucks the big one. it's worse than all the rest.
both adderall and strattera incapacitated me... so i couldn't leave the house, i just wanted to hide under a blanket.
i've been taking wellbutrin though, and that seems to work pretty well. i don't think it hits the same neurotransmitters. -
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Tue, April 1, 2008 - 4:07 AM"i've been taking wellbutrin though, and that seems to work pretty well. i don't think it hits the same neurotransmitters. "
Wellbutrin (bupropion) is an atypical antidepressant and is, chemically, sorta halfway between an SSRI and an amphetamine. It does hit both norepinephrine and dopamine receptors, like adderall and ritalin, but also blocks the nicotine receptors.
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 6:07 AMHow do you remember to switch tasks (serious question)? I work for myself also, and am struggling at the moment to manage my life and my work -- I overfocus on things I'm into and forget to do a lot of important things. I get so frustrated with myself.
I tried the meds and I couldn't handle it, my body is pretty sensitive. I improved from making some changes in my diet, but I need some other strategies. I really don't want to get a "real" job, but sometimes I think about it -- because that would at least simplify that part of my life, so far as managing myself. -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 7:00 AM"I really don't want to get a "real" job, but sometimes I think about it -- because that would at least simplify that part of my life, so far as managing myself. "
No it wouldn't, trust me. All you would be doing is adding more stress to your life as you try to explain ADD to your manager.
As for medication, have you tried any anti-anxiety meds? They help with the hyperfocused form of ADD.
Also get someone to help you to do the importants things that you aren't currently getting done. -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 8:10 AMHi Troy, Thanks for your suggestions.
Actually, it's not a clear cut generalization as to which is better. Of course it depends on the job. I've not had problems with managers per se, just with managing. And when you're self-employed, there are far more things to manage than just the work. I've had many jobs that were OK, and far less stressful than being self-employed. The issue for me is more about desiring to assert my creativity in all aspects of my life, making more $ (theoretically) and being flexible with my time, so that my life isn't entirely about earning money (there are *lots* of things I like to do that don't earn my any $). The flexible time element however, can be a liability if I am unable to manage my time and all the various things I'm attempting to do.
Meds help in the short run, but in the long run it is not a good thing for me. I'm more focused on a nutritional approach and natural remedies -- another project to manage though, I "forget" to follow through with things like that which help me. I could remember to take only one pill, but still, that just isn't a viable option for me.
And likewise, getting someone to help me isn't something I have resources for (i.e. a coach) -- currently. It would be great to do that, but at the moment I'm more interested in helping myself to help myself, if you will :-)
I just downloaded the DaVinci Book that was recommended in another post in this tribe. That is the kind of inspiration I'm looking for right now, to help me focus on the fact that I need to focus! -- on specific things, and not just over-focus on a few :-) I'd like to have "systems" in place to manage my life -- and this has been a challenge previously because I've moved so many times -- now I'm more settled and looking to create some structure. So having a reference like this gives me a reason to put some attention there. Haven't started reading yet, but I'll let you all know if it is a help to me.
Thanks again.
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 9:33 AMSorry, I wasn't clear enough. When I suggested getting someone to help you, I was talking about an assistant or office manager not a coach. -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 4:14 PMAzura, Buspar really helped me a lot. It is for anxiety but it has helped my ADD tremendously. I am not hyperfocused on every tiny thing, I don't take every thing personally and I am more relaxed, leading to better concentration. -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 5:57 PMThanks Junowoman... As I said though, I really am not able to do pharmaceuticals - even if I had insurance or whatever to pay for any of it, I still would not choose that, I've found the side-effects to be not worth the short-term benefits, given my particular body and health concerns. One of those projects I'd like to manage better is my health regimens. There are a number of herbal remedies and nutritional approaches that I've found to be effective, that don't have the side-effects, but rather are more holistic in terms of a benefit to my overall well-being. That requires a little bit of planning and extra funding as well, more than I have readily available, but I'm moving forward little by little. Awareness of my attention lapses and having a strategy to deal with that is another step along the way. Just happy to have a stable living situation after not having that for a long time :-) -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 6:57 PMYou need to do what what works for you and is long lasting, so I wish you the best and hope you find the right combo of things to make your life productive and wonderful.
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 5:44 PMYes, I've thought about this as well, and it some point I would love to be able to hire help -- which would be a help to me in focusing, as well as simply taking some of the load off -- but it's not even remotely within my means at the moment.
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Sat, December 1, 2007 - 8:38 AMmy chest hurts when i take it and i cant wait until it is out of my system -
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Sat, December 1, 2007 - 8:37 PMBuspar is helping me a lot. I know it's not an ADD drug per se, but I feel less anxious and can concentrate now that I am not running on the fumes of anxiety. -
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Sun, December 2, 2007 - 1:34 AM"Buspar is helping me a lot. I know it's not an ADD drug per se, but I feel less anxious and can concentrate now that I am not running on the fumes of anxiety."
Then it is the right medicine for you. I might have said this before but there is a form of ADD that is especially common in women that has a strong anxiety component to it. I wish you luck. -
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Sun, December 2, 2007 - 5:11 PMThansk, Troy. I feel like I have my life back!
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Mon, December 10, 2007 - 5:30 PMI am no longer on Concerta, i need something which helps short term memory tho..When I was on meds and visited the shrink I thought of this song:
www.metrolyrics.com/candy-ma...s-jr.html
Sammy Davis Jr. Candy man Lyrics
*** Complimentary Candy man Ringtone ***
Alright everybody gather 'round
The Candy Man is here
What kind of candy do you want
Sweet choc'late
Choc'late malted candy
Gum drops
Anything you want
You've come to the right man
'Cause I'm the Candy Man
Who can take a sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it with choc'late and a miracle or two
The Candy Man
Oh, the Candy Man can
The Candy Man can
'Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
Who can take a rainbow
Wrap it in a sigh
Soak it in the sun and make a groovy lemon pie
The Candy Man
The Candy Man can
The Candy Man can
'Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
The Candy Man makes everything he bakes
Satisfying and delicious
Now you talk about your childhood wishes
You can even eat the dishes
[Candy man lyrics on www.metrolyrics.com]
Oh, who can take tomorrow
Dip it in a dream
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream
The Candy Man
Oh, the Candy Man can
The Candy Man can
'Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
The Candy Man makes everything he bakes
Satisfying and delicious
Talk about your childhood wishes
You can even eat the dishes
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Who can take tomorrow
Dip it in a dream
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream
The Candy Man
The Candy Man can
The Candy Man can
'Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
Yes, the Candy Man can
'Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
A-Candy Man, a-Candy Man, a-Candy Man
A-Candy Man, a-Candy Man, a-Candy Man
A-Candy Man, a-Candy Man, a-Candy Man -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 12:12 AMMajor Tom was a junkie and the Candyman was a pusher.
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Thu, December 20, 2007 - 8:58 AMI just got Rx'd adderall XR ... doctor says i'm textbook case of adult a.d.d.
when I was a kid I was labeled 'disruptive in class' constantly
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 4:51 PMTo those who take the regular instant release form of ADDERALL ----
do you get irritable in the evening after your dosage has worn away ???
I recently switched from XR to IR and am feeling this way every other night or so ...
Just curious what other people's experiences are ...... and how do you deal with it ???
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 6:05 PMSounds like a withdrawal symptom.
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 3:56 PMsituation rectified ... call off the hounds ...
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 6:33 PMhey, even if the situation has been resolved, i gotta chime in.
it's not withdrawal. it's that the medication wore out. the next day when you're all blah-frickin-blah and can't get started, that's withdrawal.
once the shit stops working, it's really too tempting to take half a tab and keep going. fucks up your sleep from what i've experienced.
this is why i drink a soda (limited to a can) just to not "crash"
otherwise, i just consider it downtime, and try to establish some relax time before hitting the hay, per se.
if i get too caught up in being mentally on the ball ALL the time i end up suffering with sleep or just stressing too much piddly shit.
i generally find an activity that occupies my mind without the need for speed. whether it's this BS on tribe, or pulling weeds, it doesn't require medication to do something you're in to. lifestyle. that's the simple word. just find your groove that meshes with the meds, and it'll be okay. peace. -
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 7:18 PM"it's not withdrawal. it's that the medication wore out. the next day when you're all blah-frickin-blah and can't get started, that's withdrawal. "
When withdrawal starts is fairly subjective and from a medical point of view NOT the demonized condition it is portrayed to be by society. Withdrawal is just the wanted side-effects that start once the medication has worn off, it can be very mild or severe and does not require cravings. Often, withdrawal is associated with backlash - the condition where, once the meds have worn off, the symptoms being treated get worse then they were before taking the medications.
I took XR dexedrine for years and rapidly crashed once it wore off suffering both withdrawal and backlash.
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 7:29 PMone must not forget what powerful agents, the ingredients in Adderall are . . . -
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 8:56 PMYes, the amphetamines are a powerful drugs.
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Wed, March 12, 2008 - 9:58 PMWelbutrin. It kind of works but I will be seeing my shrink in a few weeks. I hope she goes for a change. -
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Thu, March 13, 2008 - 8:25 AMAlong w/the Adderall, I take 3 other meds for Bipolar--Xanax, Celexa, & Lamictal. I hate being on so many meds, but they work, so I can't be too upset. I feel like i'm putting the pharmacist's kid thru grad school w/all I take! :P
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Fri, March 21, 2008 - 4:24 AMUpdate since last posting--
I'm still on 4 meds, but 2 are different now...dr. saw it was necessary.
My current meds are:
1--Celexa
2--Lamictal
3--Vyvanse
4--Alprazolam ER
When I got this, p-doc gave me flyer w/Free 30 Day of Meds card in it. When I called to activate that card, I found out that the Vyvanse is commonly prescribed to KIDS w/ADD & ADHD. I'm making the assumption this will work for me, but I wonder. Has anyone had the same effect of drowsiness when you've taken the Vyvanse? I felt woozy this morning & want to go back to sleep, but was curious as to what anyone else has had w/this.
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Fri, March 21, 2008 - 6:18 AMI've never taken Vyvanse, but I hear that doctors complain that it is no more effective then Adderal or Dexedrin so why bother with the new and expensive prodrug (vyvanse).
BTW Xanax and Alprazolam are the same thing.
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Fri, March 21, 2008 - 7:28 AMive researched Vyvanse some and found that most report its effects to be less pronounced than it's sibling drug Adderall (both made by Shire pharmaceuticals ) ...
also read that most in the survey preferred Adderall to Vyvanse if they'd taken both ...
I've not taken Vyvanse so I dunno ... No plans of stopping Adderall though as it's working very well ...
Kids/adults/anyone can have a.d.d.
I was undiagnosed as a kid ... but had all the usual problems in school and otherwise ... I diagnosed myself recently after reading up on it ...
fairly revelatory ...
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 12:14 AMI can't be medicated because the ass who put me thru five weeks of diagnostic tests refused to give me a written diagnosis... he gave me a verbal one, which, of course, is perfectly useless as far as getting any kind of treatment.
I'm debating whether to try to find another psych and start the whole process again. It's difficult to find ADD specialists on my insurance and where I live. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 4:46 AMdont quit, dont give up ...fight the powers that be, yo ...
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:44 AMReport the doctor immediately to the California Board of Psychology.
www.psychboard.ca.gov/
You have a right to treatment and a right to have your file transferred to another doctor (the written diagnosis). The website explains what your rights are in the state of California (which is where you live according to your profile). In your complaint say exactly what you said here. Also file a complaint with your insurance provider, at the very least he is not providing you with the treatment and could be committing insurance fraud. As you said, it is difficult to find an ADD specialist, especially for adults, so frauds are bound to litter the field in hopes of preying on the desperate. 5 weeks to get a diagnosis for ADD is suspicious, as most doctors can get a working one in as little as a 1 hour interview plus a take home questionaire.
File a complaint with the state and your insurance (let them know that you've also filed with the state) and you will get this resolved to you liking very quickly. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:40 AMThanks Troy... This happened about 5 years ago and I was on different insurance then. When I called my insurance company to complain, they gave me the run around and insisted that I just "let it go". Argh.
The psych was telling me that my insurance wouldn't cover the report (written diagnosis... $500). So I called my insurance to find out why they would pay for 5 weeks of diagnostics for nothing... and they were very vague and asked if I wanted to file a complaint about the dr. At that point, I had no idea who was refusing me the diagnosis, my insurance, or the doc. I was crazy busy with grad school, work, and other big things going on in my life, I was confused by both of their responses, so I just didn't pursue it.
Do you think it's too late now?
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 12:48 PMDon't act under the assumption that it is to late. Insurance companies run under the assumption that you will eventually give up, which is part of the reason why they get away with murder. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 12:50 PMahhh.... good point, Tedster.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 3:12 PMThe statue of limitations is 7 years, that gives you 2 more years. Also, you don't have to pay for the report... -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:05 PMThanks.. I'll look into it. Part of my symptoms (or maybe this is just me) is that I get easily overwhelmed by multiple or big tasks. I've already got enough on my plate... I'd like to pursue this but I'm afraid of taking on too much and becoming overwhelmed and having it mess me up further.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:28 PM"Is it an ADD thing to become easily overwhelmed?"
It can be. It can also be an anxiety issue. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
One thing does strike me as odd (maybe its just how I'm reading it), you don't thrive with multiple projects. Its very common for those with ADD to have a ton of things going on at once and do it well (to a point).
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:45 PMI thrive on being busy and interactive at work. I start to fall asleep when doing boring tasks at my desk, but when I am out working with the public, dealing with one problem after another as they come up, and constant interruptions -- I love it.
I can hyperfocus when I am working on something that interests me (my own projects at home), and I completely lose track of time. I just can't stand boring, tedious tasks, like making schedules. I like to be kept busy, or be doing something creative, or sleep.
When I'm at home, I jump from task to task... I have trouble finishing mundane things, like dishes, but if I get an idea that involves creativity, I drop every thing and do it, especially in the middle of the night, and I can't stop until I am either finished or fall asleep from exhaustion. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:33 PMThe thing to do for overwhelming is to break the task down, and do the next step later.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:39 PMWhat you describe is very typical ADD.
So it's not the multitasking nor the task (unless it is all of tedious work) by itself that causes the feeling of being overwhelmed, correct?
If it is the size of the task that is an issue, break it down into smaller pieces but don't force yourself to do in one continuous effort - shift tasks when the impulse grabs you. Although, it is hard for many of those without ADD to understand this, doing things this way will actually maximize your productivity possibly out producing your co-workers (which is its own danger). -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 4:52 PMI've learned to work this way. The other day, after chipping away at three big tasks, suddenly all were finished. I was almost at a loss for what to do next. -
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Thu, April 17, 2008 - 5:07 AMnothing like some yerba mate and adderall to make me start doing things bam-bam-bam instead of procrastinating ...
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:31 PMThe overwhelming that is.
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